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April 19, 2009

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Jeff

If 1/2 of the participants were over 40 that means the summit would have had 100 people rather than 200 and the voting might have been more manageable.

This demographic issue is a real sore spot with me, and the reason is that if the concept is to surface ideas from a specific demographic group and their voice is diluted, why even bother with the "young creatives" label? It borders on hypocritical.

"We want to hear from you, but oh, wait, here is what I think we should be doing to attract you"

Now if this was framed as more of a dialogue, that would be different.

Matt

Jeff, you make some very valid points.

Taken directly from the Updayton website: the young creatives are the next generation of the creative class. They are engineers, poets, lawyers, computer programmers, scientists, artists and architects – anyone who is between the ages of 18-40 and creates for a living. Today’s entire creative class accounts for 30% of the population and over 50% of all wages and salaries – young creatives and their constantly increasing college graduation rates will be an even bigger force in our world. Where young creatives choose to live and work will determine the regions and businesses that are successful in the next decade.

I think I saw artists, community activists, some civic-minded people, and downtown advocates. I'm not sure where the engineers, lawyers, scientists, and computer programmers were. Of course you can't judge a book by it's cover either. People's employers weren't identified on nametags so it was hard to tell what people's backgrounds were. Having been around for a while there were some new faces (refreshing) but also alot of the same people who are involved in everything (myself included)

David Esrati

Matt- great post showcasing what's already available. In my breakout group almost everyone there was tied to one of the sponsor organizations and had their own organizations agenda to push.
www.daytonos.com was an attempt at a central, democratized hub- but, it still hasn't been fully realized.
I'm 46- which means technically- I was too old- but, I saw lots of others over 40 that were there. There was no carding at the door. Between my summation and yours- a reader would have a real good idea of what went wrong, and some ideas on how to get it right on round 2.

Amy

Matt,
I was one of the organizers of the summit (albeit that I came into the volunteer organization mid year to help with viral marketing efforts) as well as a facilitator at one of the breakout sessions about Entrepreneurship.

My session has about 12 people in it, none of which were connected to a sponsor. They included a teacher, a photographer, a web developer, a social worker, a graphic designer, a film maker, an aspiring salon owner, a lawyer, an existing business owner and a few others that I can't recall. 9 of the 12 were under 40. We had great conversation - and some incredible ideas for how we as young volunteers could remove barriers to opening a business in the region (i.e., Dayton Apprentice came from my room).

As you indicated, there were some issues with the voting process when we were brought back together in the large group. Our team has noted this and will take some lessons learned in planning the next summit (yes, there will be another next year).

I ask that all of you critical of this initiative to remember that this in a 100% volunteer effort by well-meaning organizers. Yes, there may have been things that we could have done better, but we have to start somewhere. I suggest that if you believe this could be done better, that you email us at getinvolved@updayton.com to get involved in making efforts effective upfront instead of being critical of the effort afterwards. Your cynicism only serves to dilute months of hard work in trying to reach out and inspire this elusive and important demographic.

Finally, I also heard a lot of people asking for resources that already exist, and for websites to bring existing resources together to make things easier to find. Perhaps instead of reacting to this by telling them to look harder for what is already there, we need continue deeper conversations with this audience to better understand why they aren't aware.

You can't ask people what they need and then tell them they are uninformed when they do so. We knew things would come up that already exist, but we wanted to highlight what indeed young folks need and want so that we can figure out where and why there are gaps in their understanding.

My gut tells me that as a whole, we are missing the mark in knowing how to market effectively to this tech-savvy and quickly bored community. We aren't in-tune to where they are to reach them, how to speak to them in a language that resonates, or how to package things attractively for them.

The summit was not the end of updayton and our work with the young creatives, rather just the beginning.

Will you join us in our journey?

Frank Coleman

I agree with the points made.

It seems like we were talking about initiating events in the community that are already happening!

Frank Coleman

Amy,

I will support any initiative that involves improving Dayton and its communities.

My biggest gripe is communication. There needs to be better communication with Dayton citizens and between the various organizations.

Also, I agree completely with your statement concerning marketing. There are several community resources available- but people aren't aware of them. They need to reach out to the colleges more through advertisements, on-campus promotions, etc.

Jeff

Another thing that struck me and was a surprise was the amount of conversation we had about ideas to start things, not knowing that what they were talking about already exists.

This event was heavily advertised, so you all were going to be getting the proverbial man on the street. In other words people who are not in the know, not "insiders", in the sense that they are not following these things either in online discussions or in the newspaper, either the DDN or DB-J. Yet they were, presumably the type of people this event was trying to attract.


Andy

Matt,
I completely agree with you about your observations. I would also note that you are being very even in your report and that you are one of the most optimistic people I know.

I don't understand why this generation, my generation, gets so much credit for being connected yet knows so little about the resources that are available. I think that you have done a great service to the conversation by researching your point and adding to the knowledge.

Shannon

Matt, I wanted to add to your list of available resources... Melissa Aldridge and team at the Dayton Development Coalition have put together a great catalog of resources for entrepreneurs at http://www.getmidwest.com/e-link

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